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By: blasdelf

Also, neither one of those articles, nor any other that I've seen, makes any attempt to answer (a) what the hell happened to these two kids between ages 4-16 to make them end up as killers, or (b) what...

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By: Smedleyman

U forgot Seinfeld: "Sounds nice, doesn't really work on that Charles Bronson kinda level. You know what I mean, those movies where his whole family gets wiped out by some street scum. You think you...

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By: Mitheral

bardicwrites"White people are crazy." It just appears that way because they all look the same, one nut job taints the whole pool. dwwrites"When I heard about what happened, I just nodded. I thought it...

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By: Pastabagel

This thread is probably dead now, but I'd like to point out that yes, I've read dgaicun's link here before, and also this one. You'll note that neither of those articles states that EH or DK were not...

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By: lodurr

OK, dgaicun, so I touched a nerve. But you really should grow a tiny bit thicker skin. I'm sorry that you couldn't see I was trying to engage in dialog.

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By: frogan

Someone please explain the middle part to me. The lack of a middle part represents the lack of effective parenting that ends up with 13 people dead.

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By: batgrlHG

"I have it on good inside authority from a number of schools in three different states that kids are diagnosed with ADD and ADHD on the spot by teachers based on one or two instances of classroom...

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By: Jimbob

Six billion people on the planet. It was bound to happen soner or later.

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By: agregoli

Amen, dgaicun.

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By: dgaicun

but I would expect to find a lot of what I would regard as similarities in the upbringing of those disparate children. E.g., if they're growing up in similar millieus, that's an argument for influence,...

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By: lodurr

ekpates, perhaps you'd like to enlighten us: Exactly what sciences of mind are not fraudulent? And is it ever appropriate to prescribe drugs for "psychological" problems? 'Cuz I'm left kind of not...

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By: lodurr

(alright, could be, but I have to go home now.)

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By: raedyn

(he seems to be talking about what would be the opposite of twin studies, shared environment not shared genetics)

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By: ewkpates

scalefree, you Freud loving Commie you... From your Breggin page: His 18 books, most written for the general public, attack psychosurgery, electroconvulsive therapy ("shock treatments"), Prozac,...

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By: lodurr

Oh, you're talking about twin studies (and their ilk). I understand now. I wasn't following your term of art. (Which is a little counter-intuitive, wouldn't you say? After all, it's a non-shared...

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By: CwgrlUp

You know what's messed up? That you think a teacher is qualified to diagnose anything. A teacher sees an entire classroom of kids maybe 5 hours a week. On that basis, they can pick out a single kid as...

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By: scalefree

ewkpates: if Tom Cruise & Peter Breggin are the leading champions of your position, I'd say it's time to call it a day.

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By: Bugbread

lodurr:"You say that life outcomes are more complex than previously supposed, but then you say that you can demonstrate that parental influence isn't a significant part of that complexity? " I'm...

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By: dgaicun

lodurr, again type 'shared environment' into pubmed. It's a term used in behavior genetics to describe the effects of shared household environment. I'm not going to go through a tutorial here but if...

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By: lodurr

I did read the comment in context. I quoted your whole paragraph. You said no one was talking about what went on in that school. And I say again: You have to be willfully ignoring it not to see that...

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